Full Interview with Dana LaMon
Dana LaMon is an international speaker,
author, former Californian judge, father, and blind.
Dana LaMon interviewed on Skype with
Melanie Suzanne Wilson, Toastmasters D70 Social Media Officer, in the lead up to his Australian visit.
Dana will give the keynote speech and
educational sessions at the 2015 Toastmasters District 70 (NSW & ACT)
Annual Conference.
He will then speak on ‘Packing Power into
your Presentations’ at 99 on York, in Sydney’s CBD.
Dana is technologically traditional. He uses a 1970 phone. It has no caller
id. The loud ringing resonates. He loves it.
A nearby iPad belongs to Erica, Dana’s
assistant.
Despite Dana’s aversion to technology, he
still uses an iPhone. The voice over with Siri proves to be useful.
For someone less fond of technology, Dana is doing alright. He authored a blog since 2011.
Why did Dana originally choose to create a
blog?
“The
blog provided ways to get message out, besides being on platform on stage.”
He
coined the concept of a meaningful moment. Dana forced himself to keep writing
and developing the idea. Writing is secondary to Dana’s primary medium of
speaking. Dana considers himself a speaker who transfers his message to the
written form. Books were inspired by the blog.
“In
the early part of the century, I wrote about making the moment meaningful.”
What made Dana write on this topic?
“Over
time, I’ve talked pieces about it here and there.
Found
that my speeches were covering various topics, but there was no central focus.
And
one day, I was flying from California to the East Coast.
A
lady asked, ‘On what do you speak?’
I was
disappointed that I couldn’t give her a concise answer.
In my
workshops about presentation skills, I encourage people to first develop a one sentence
statement that would be a summation of what your entire presentation will be
about.
I was
disappointed with myself that I couldn’t do such a thing.
So I
came up with the idea of the principles of a meaningful life.
Google
search came up with a church located in Minnesota.
Making
the moment meaningful had only 4 hits.”
There,
Dana found demand and a gap in the market. He would fill the gap that was the
topic of meaning in the moment.
What
advice do you have for people who are looking for their key message?
“I
encourage people to condense their message into one sentence.
Even
when you’re preparing a presentation, if you can’t give it to me in one
sentence, I suspect you’re going to ramble.
I
believe in being very goal oriented.
Know
what reaction you want from the audience.
A
lawyer knows what he or she wants to offer to the client.
I
always had to be working toward something because otherwise my time would be
wasted.
At 8
years old, I decided I was going to college and was going to major in math.
My
idea initially was quite restrained or quite limited.
I was
going to go to college in Los Angeles.
I
ended up going to Yale.”
Yale
changed Dana’s perspective on the world as a whole.
“I
began to view the world differently because I started meeting different
people.
It
got me interested in expanding my understanding of cultures and people and
experiences
Someone
said… you will get a greater education, by interacting with you fellow
students, who come from varied backgrounds, than you will get in the classroom.”
Dana
was initially a number theorist. Then he went to law school. He says it was a
simple decision.
“Most
of my class mates – they were going to medical school or they were going to law
school.
I didn’t
like the idea of arguing. I didn’t like conflict. I see myself as the judge making the decision.
I got to resolve conflict.
When
I speak, because I call myself a motivational speaker, my goal is to help people
resolve their inner conflicts.”
Dana’s philosophy, on meaningful moments,
continued to develop.
“When
I talked about making the moment meaningful, and when I wrote about it, my
objective was to give some guidelines to help people.
Ask
yourself these questions – 4 pillars of meaningfulness:
1. Will
I grow from it?
2. Will
it establish or nurture beneficial relationships?
3. Does
it fulfil my purpose?
4. Does
it define me as I want to be defined?
The more Dana reminisces on his early life,
the more his philosophy appears to have been always present. It was a
consistent theme.
“In
the early days before Toastmasters, growing up in church, I was often asked to
speak. I would even leave my own church and visit other churches. They would
ask me to speak to the youth.
Back
in the mid 70s, I was recording whenever I spoke. It’s the chance to go back
and listen to the recordings. I was saying the same things. I was talking about
purpose, growing, relationships.
I do
believe and talk about the fact that everyone has a purpose, a contribution to
make to the universe.
And
my purpose is to help people to discover that and to find that fulfilment.
When
writing the book and web site, I heard people say, ‘I am searching for meaning
in my life’.
I
wonder where’s you’re searching, where you’re looking.
Where
was I searching, and was I searching?”
Dana LaMon finds meaning in the current
situation he has, not just the one he wants.
“I am
making my life meaningful, whatever I am doing, I am seeking to make it
meaningful.
I
talk about 3 dimensions to purpose.
There
is a universal purpose, which is common to all. That is we are to give and to
serve.
Individual
purpose is that: we are all given specific talents, by which to give and to
serve.
Sometimes
we get distracted because we get envious of what we see someone else do.
If
that’s not what your strength is, you should develop what your strength is.
My
strength was not for arguing one side or another.”
Dana
explains strengths are not always immediately evident. Or strengths surprise
people early on.
“My
third child is a ballet dancer. On his third birthday, we asked him, ‘What do
you want for your birthday?’ He said, ‘I want to dance.’ He’s performing on
Broadway. He discovered that at age 3.”
This father allows his children to discover
themselves.
Dana’s wife Jacqueline, on the other hand,
went to college and majored in sociology.
“She got
a job in the reporting industry.
She went
to law school thinking she wanted to be in the entertainment law
Then
at age 46, decided she wanted to do creative writing.
She
now teaches poetry in a university in new york.”
How does Dana prepare his award winning
speeches?
“I do
not write speeches. I develop a speech in my thoughts. I start with that one
sentence, the presentation proposition. The audience will remember it and want to
use it .”
What does Dana want to do, that he hasn’t
tried already?
“Learn
to play the piano
Never
played before
When
I listen to the piano, I think that’s fascinating.”
Dana has two pianos in his house, which his
wife Jacqueline owns. She wrote songs too. The couple have one child that likes
to play the guitar, and ne that likes to play the drums.
The son, Dana Jr, works at a bar at
Waikiki.
Dana says, “He likes interacting with people. He likes to talk, he wants to read. I
don’t think he wants to be on the stage”
The fourth child now teaches math in high
school in New York.
She is also the drummer. Her masters thesis
was on rhythm and math
All Dana’s kids are doing what they like.
“That’s what I taught them to do. When they
were making their decisions about going to college, I encouraged them to do
what they enjoy doing.”
Dana advised his children when they went to
college:
“Go
far, far away from home. Their enjoyment of life would depend on how they
viewed the world. I wanted them to view the world from as broad a view as
possible. The world is considerably varied. You can better make decisions to
make your life meaningful. One of the most fascinating things about speaking
and Toastmasters is the opportunity to travel.”
What does Dana want to do, when visiting
Australia?
“I’m
interested in the people. I don’t want to be a tourist. I don’t really care
about museums. Show me the people. I go
where the invitations carry me.”
If you could meet anyone in Australia who
would it be?
Dana’s experience when meeting District
leaders, is there is always a head table at events. As much as he enjoys
meeting leaders, Dana also wants to meet people from all walks of life.
“I
don’t want to sit at the head table. I want to sit with the people. “
In Malaysia, I wanted to sit with the
everyday people. The conference organizer got flak.”
The head table was almost compulsory in
Malaysia. Dana respects traditions.
“I
will comply with customs.”
However, Dana impacts everyday audience
members’ lives, by chatting with them.
“In Malaysia,
there was a lady that sat at the table. She was considering dropping out of
toastmasters. Her schedule was getting busy”
He talked this member into staying in the
organisation.
What’s Dana’s advice to people who crave
greater dramatic experiences and projects?
“It’s
ok to look for something different or better because that’s growth. To excel is
to do better today than you did yesterday. There is a sense of dissatisfaction
or unhappiness.
I
would take them back to the pillars of meaningfulness.
If
they are looking for something different or better because they want to grow, I
think that’s fine – as long as they complete what they’re doing.
I do
believe in searching for new things, not quitting something.
I was
perfectly content to retire and conclude life with, ‘Yes I was a judge.’
Once
I joined Toastmasters, I saw this other avenue - another method to reach people.”
This world-renowned leader is always trying
something new. What else would Dana do, which he has not tried already?
“I
want to learn Spanish.”
Dana was a guest on Spanish broadcast.
“I’d like to study psychology, to understand human behaviour.”
He looks to reach new members, new
audiences.
“We’ve
got Toastmasters in Mexico.”
There’s no
stopping Dana. He has plenty of time to try new projects.
“I plan to live 100.”
What message does
Dana have for the next generation?
“Don’t wait until what my generation did, until you’re retired, to
talk about how to I make life meaningful.
Do what you enjoy now, not later.
Money distracts us from our purpose
Would mother Theresa have done what she did if she was worried
about money?”
Some Gen Y people
are told to plan their futures instantly. What advice does Dana have for the
next generation?
“We
push them to know.
You
don’t have to know.
The
possibilities are unlimited.”
Dana refers to a book, Where Good Ideas Come From, by Steven Johnson. Steven’s theory is ‘adjacent
possibilities.’
These are, “Things we can see as
possibilities, and things beyond that.
I did not see professional speaking until I
joined Toastmasters.
At the world championship, when I got
there, I saw professional speaking as a possibility.”
Experiences are, “going to put you in a new
position to see the adjacent.”
Dana embraces new opportunities. But he
also plans carefully.
“I’m
a planner. When I wake up in the morning, I say, “What will I accomplish today?
You don’t shut out the new experience.”
Dana really does everything. He proves
anything is possible.
Dana LaMon will be seen for the keynote
speech and educational sessions at the Toastmasters District 70 Annual
Conference.
He will then speak at 99 on York, on 18th
May at 7pm.
The Toastmasters District 70 Social Media
Officer thanks Dana for taking the time to interview.
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